In the other thread regarding the rower who went missing you had various criticisms of ocean rowers...
...But now you are saying you would jump in a privately built and maintained sub and pursue an adventure to see the Titanic which now has an all out search going on using resources.
So in regards to the hatch needing to be opened from the outside......does this mean if they were fortunate enough to have made it to the surface intact and alive, they would still suffocate if not found in 96 hours ?
The hatch on this sub is on the front, which would still be underwater when the sub is on the surface. To exit, the sub is lifted out of the water after surfacing.
To allow exit from the floating sub would require a top hatch
Is this a different vessel?
Surface searching an area the size of Connecticut…
I’m not sure who to address this to, perhaps psneeld and I hope I'm making sense.
In terms of simple logic, if Titan had surfaced, would it not have risen fairly straight up and be in “close” proximity to the mother ship?
Or, asked differently; what is subsurface drift like, in comparison to surface drift? How far could that thing have drifted in the X hours it would take to surface?
If the sub imploded... the US Navy may have heard it.... though I have no idea of their underwater listening capabilities these days.
Good point. I hadn't thought of SOSUS. But would they tell us if they did know?
View this activity the same as digging up graves. If it is archaeological study or to learn to prevent a recurrence and doesn’t offend religious precepts or cultural norms of direct descendants it may have value and be done ethically. Otherwise it’s voyeurism and not justifiable.
However that’s an entirely different subject than trying to save these souls or at least return their remains. Closure either way seems an entirely worthwhile activity.
Probably not, but they might provide info through channels where the source of the intel wouldn't be revealed.
The paradox at the heart of countless spy thrillers. How do I act on my knowledge without revealing that I have the knowledge...?
Leaders in the submersible craft industry were so worried about what they called the “experimental” approach of OceanGate, the company whose craft has gone missing, that they wrote a letter in 2018 warning of possible “catastrophic” problems with the submersible’s development and its planned mission to tour the Titanic wreckage.
The letter, obtained by The New York Times, was sent to OceanGate’s chief executive, Stockton Rush, by the Manned Underwater Vehicles committee of the Marine Technology Society, a 60-year-old trade group...
I understand the allure of the Titanic. The story has fascinated me every since I was a kid, and especially after I lived on a cruise ship for a few years. Wanting to visit places that are historically or scientifically significant is not goulish or macabre. How many people visit the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington, or the battle fields at Gettysburg. Just last month my son took a tour to a concentration camp in Germany on a school trip. Visiting the beaches of Normandy is on my bucket list. I don't see the desire to visit the Titanic as any more goulish than these other tourist activities that are considered normal.
Would be interesting to hear about actual details which were experimental, if not risky in nature.
The full letter in the Times has some of that, but the complaint seems to be that the builder didn't do testing to know what the risks were. His response seems to be:
To do it the right way stifles innovation.
Does a sub like this have an umbilical cord, or is it free floating? I free floating, what would they use for coms? Underwater radio comes is hard, right? And if am umbilical cord, is the mothership now holding the severed end?
A sub like this is un-tethered (no umbilical cord).
Communications can be achieved over a few thousand meters via acoustic transmission. Sound at 8khz frequency travels quite well and I have spoken on underwater phones - they sound a bit like the tin can and string, but they are quite intelligible. (The 8khz "carrier" frequency is right in the middle of our human hearing range, so that particular frequency is filtered out of what you hear)
I read that the Titan communicated to the surface in text messages - presumably these were transmitted on an acoustic "carrier" wave as described above.
I read that the Titan communicated to the surface in text messages - presumably these were transmitted on an acoustic "carrier" wave as described above.
Implosion is immediate….Caught and entangled so slow
Does a sub like this have an umbilical cord, or is it free floating? I free floating, what would they use for coms? Underwater radio comes is hard, right? And if am umbilical cord, is the mothership now holding the severed end?