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What is a good book to buy to educate myself on these rules? Pm me please
You have one of these, right?
https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/images/Navrules_lg.jpg
What is a good book to buy to educate myself on these rules? Pm me please
Good point. At some stage the give way/stand on rules, which are supposed to regulate conduct so boats know what they are to do and what to expect of others, suddenly flips to avoidance no matter what.So a little digression (not that there hasn't been plenty on this thread!).
If you are the stand-on vessel and you decided that the give-way vessel is not going to change course to avoid a meeting, you then either alter speed or course. The give-way boat, knowing he is give-way, also changes course at the the same - and a collision occurs.
Does the at-fault percentages for the stand-on vessel change?
At some stage the give way/stand on rules, which are supposed to regulate conduct so boats know what they are to do and what to expect of others, suddenly flips to avoidance no matter what.
And that messes up the basic rules...
For emergency collision avoidance....its usually always both need turn to starboard, never turn in front of another vessel, make appropriate speed changes based on turn radius, advance and transfer......which are not usually a big deal with smaller vessels. I am pretty sure they become more pronounced with vessel size dependinv on design features.
This is assuming there was reasonable conditions and seamanship prior to the extremis situation.
Ths is hilarious.
With regards to sail boats under sail power vs recreatonal power boats....
There are very few instances where a recreational power boat has “stand on” privileges. Very few.
Perhaps when a boat under sail power overtakes a power boat, but that rarely happens...
Perhaps in a narrow channel, but in all my time seeing sail boats few tend to operater under sail in a narrow channel.
There are several perhapses, but the reality is that almost every interaction that actually happens between recreational power boats and sailboats under sail power, require the power boat to give way.
Hard copies are usually on the shelf at West Marine for around $15.
With that, I shall read a limited number of comments condemning me, then I shall withdraw from this discussion. It is obviously going no where.
You guys do know that it is a requirement to have a copy on board?
I used to live in Italy, and there are some parts in the south (Naples) where all traffic laws go out the window: red lights, one-ways, speed limits, all of them. And yet there are surprisingly few accidents. Everyone lives by one simple rule: just don’t hit anybody.
I find that works pretty well on the water as well.
You guys do know that it is a requirement to have a copy on board?
Since early on, the task of coming up with unlikely scenarios not based on any available material whereby the sailboat can be held responsible, has been enthusiastically prosecuted. In the very best traditions of TF.Hey, here's the solution. Remove all navigational aids. Just fight it out with canon fire....With that, I shall read a limited number of comments condemning me, then I shall withdraw from this discussion. It is obviously going no where.
Since early on, the task of coming up with unlikely scenarios not based on any available material whereby the sailboat can be held responsible, has been enthusiastically prosecuted. In the very best traditions of TF.
OD, how could you possibly deprive yourself of reading such inventive theories?
Now Kevin, distilling sensible conclusions from available information just won`t do. Stop it.
Yes, I keep mine in the cabinet right next to Chart #1 which is also mandatory but few carry.
Yes, I keep mine in the cabinet right next to Chart #1 which is also mandatory but few carry.
Hey, here's the solution. Remove all navigational aids. Just fight it out with canon fire.
Would that make everyone happy? Do not show other boaters any respect.
Colregs cannot cover nor were they to address all situations.
Basically, there is 1 rule, do all that is possible to avoid causing loss of life and/or damage. Attempt to contact the other boat via the VHF and or hail horn to determine their intentions. If they do not respond to the radio and your signaling device then, assume every one on board is dead and be prepared to take evasive actions
You can make up all the IFs and Buts you want. The rules cannot cover all circumstances. The rules were not intended to cover all circumstances. Use the common sense you were born with and take take evasions actions and if you can get the name and hail port of the other vessel, report it immediately to the USCG as will I.
There may be a medical emergency onboard the other boat.
With that, I shall read a limited number of comments condemning me, then I shall withdraw from this discussion. It is obviously going no where.