My wife is that way. I on the other hand can sleep in full daylight. No problems
Wifey B: Masks?
My wife is that way. I on the other hand can sleep in full daylight. No problems
Wifey B: Masks?
We still enjoy watching some television late at night or watching a movie. And as pointed out all the televisions can be much more in today's world with access to so much through them. Linked to your security system, your navigation system.
Oh, and we make no apologies but we will be watching the Heat and Spurs tonight, starting while eating dinner since it's 6:00 Pacific Time. We enjoy basketball. We still find gyms and play sometimes while cruising, actually carry a basketball on board. So, we'll watch.
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I remained puzzled as to how propane saves on energy needs. ........
Let me see if I can solve the puzzle:
1) Not every cruising boat has a genset. With a propane system and range, one can cook pretty much like at home. I have three burners and an oven with broiler. 20 lbs of propane lasts me for months. No noise and no maintenance.
2) Burning fuel to make heat to run a genset to produce electricity to be converted to heat to cook with is not the most efficient plan. It's even less efficient if you try to store the electricity in a battery and then use an inverter to raise the voltage so you can make heat with it.
Let me see if I can solve the puzzle:
1) Not every cruising boat has a genset. With a propane system and range, one can cook pretty much like at home. I have three burners and an oven with broiler. 20 lbs of propane lasts me for months. No noise and no maintenance.
2) Burning fuel to make heat to run a genset to produce electricity to be converted to heat to cook with is not the most efficient plan. It's even less efficient if you try to store the electricity in a battery and then use an inverter to raise the voltage so you can make heat with it.
I have run over-sized DC wiring and have seen a savings as well. Resistance or heat is wasted AH's on a boat's house battery system.In my prior post on saving power I forgot to mention rewiring the 12 volt connection for the refrigerator and freezer. The wiring initially was correct but by increasing the wire size I reduced the voltage drop/loss by perhaps 1 to 2%. With a daily draw of 140 amp hours this is a savings over 120 days each year at anchor.
Hi Janice, missed your message earlier. Thanks for all the tips. I'm by nature lazy, so will indeed be living with what is on the boat at first. No plans for making any mods that don't provide very real increases in comfort or efficiency. MPPT controllers would qualify imo. For those interested, here's an introductory article on MPPT charge controllers: What is Maximum Power Point Tracking (MPPT)Hello Wil. HOWEVER, if I didn't have real estate and was limited to the number of panels I could fit up top, I'd have opted for an MMPT regulator. What I've seen/read regarding the differences between them:
But live with what you've got at first. There's a reason your boat was outfitted as she was. Perhaps it's not apparent today, but in six months you'll know for certain. In the meantime add batteries, a great charger, and live with your generator.
In my opinion that is.
It's nice to have opinions.
Some people have lead a tough life for moments or decades for all kinds of reasons...
Because there's finally a chance in their life to live it exactly the way they want it to be...well whose to judge?
Wow...I couldn't face the mirror in the morning if I passed judgment on someone who deserved to live the exact life they chose to for the moment.
being polite and not spoiling quiet moments with a genset for a whole anchorage is one thing...thinking someone else should lead a life like they like it to me is just over the top.
+1. Well said. It was never my intention to "....thinking someone else should lead a life like they like it", and all the rest of that post. This thread is meant to be a safe place to speak about a/your boat's power systems, to speculate on power system possibilities, all with no personal judgements. Sure, there's intentionally some green in it; that doesn't mean personal judgements are being made either way, especially in this thread.I don't see anyone saying their way is the only way or judging others who have a different approach. Maybe I missed something. Are you reading more into this than has been posted?
Ps, dont want to get in a squabble with you about this (Here comes the But), but the sentences "Wow...I couldn't face the mirror in the morning if I passed judgment on someone who deserved to live the exact life they chose to for the moment." and "being polite and not spoiling quiet moments with a genset for a whole anchorage is one thing...thinking someone else should lead a life like they like it to me is just over the top." just aren't needed in this thread. **Nobody is making those judgements here.**read more closely and the posts make more sense....I usually try to be specific without calling out anyone personally unless that are just as far out of line. I have no general issues with people being green or not wanting gensets or to run them too long...I like others only point out what the average boated does and for what specific reasons.
both you and flywright are not even close guessing on this one....
Ps, dont want to get in a squabble with you about this (Here comes the But), but the sentences "Wow...I couldn't face the mirror in the morning if I passed judgment on someone who deserved to live the exact life they chose to for the moment." and "being polite and not spoiling quiet moments with a genset for a whole anchorage is one thing...thinking someone else should lead a life like they like it to me is just over the top." just aren't needed in this thread. **Nobody is making those judgements here.**
I tried again to state that in my last post to you. Not trying to be 'righteous' or whatever word comes to mind, just don't think that is a hard thing to understand--personal judgements like those (yes, those are personal judgements) are inflammatory and unnecessary.
TV on a boat that's not a live-aboard is for the person that's addicted to football or just has to have everything just because they can.
Well said Ron, my wife happens to enjoy the 24 hour news cycle me not so much but to make her happy and keeps me boating we use a KVH M3 on Direct TV when not watching OTA local news.Some folks seem to think they are somehow better than other folks because they claim to not watch TV. That's pretty judgmental.
The fact that someone does or does not watch TV has no bearing on their worth or intelligence.
Oh Oh! Hope this forum doesn't turn into Nastiness like "The Hull Truth"
How does one not follow ABYC suggestions if they are watching TV on their boat? Did I miss something?
Bill
Well you've just met a rare person here, I had (8) Superior Court issued NJ carry permits over the years. But I'm still trying to figure out how TV has anything to do with ABYC suggestions can you clarify?It's been an ongoing "discussion" as to whether you are sane or not if you do/don't follow ABYC to the "T"
...fits in all discussions even anchor/gun ones...
Y'know, you are right about that, in that judgements are being taken all the time. It's just human nature. I guess I was afraid that we would lose the collective sense of humour...now there's a judgement of mine.....Again a swing and a miss...
You don't think this is a bit judgmental....
"TV on a boat that's not a live-aboard is for the person that's addicted to football or just has to have everything just because they can."
I do... and you guys need to pay a lot more attention to what's written...it's amazing how much is shoveled though or totally missed here.