Teak Deck replacement on GB32

[Bryant]

decking

I give up... going to complete the decking!

Very nice. I have a GB 36 Classic. The teak decks have been removed and the deck glassed over and painted. It's about time for a new paint job but I'm considering something like what you have done. If you don't mind, I have. a couple of questions.

What was the cost of doing this and how long is this product projected to last before replacement is required?

 

[GB32Patience]

Hey there @Bryant, Feel free to send me a PM and Ill give you cell number if you want to chat on this project. All in all, the numbers at the head end of this thread stood, the Permateek all in, including glue and shipping was $3,500 for approx. 75 sq. feet. A bit of prep work, all homegrown labor removing old teak and checking and repairing some core, throw in a gal of West Epoxy, some glass cloth and $50 for tools (roller and trowel). I'll give you some installation pointers if you are considering this approach. Will be posting some updated photos after the weekend.

 

[GB32Patience]

ah yes, regarding longevity of product. I do not know projected life but expect this deck to outlast the boat. Up in NorthEast we have relatively short seasons and Patience doesn't get a heck of a lot of foot traffic, so we are expecting not alot of wear going forward. Time will tell. The glue provided on install seems to hold like a bear so dont expect lifting edges should be a problem... again... time will tell and Ill use this thread for periodic updates.

 

[backinblue]

I agree that Permateek is one if not the best product for non-wood decking. Note however that in the full sun of a summer day it will be too hot to walk on barefoot.

 

[GB32Patience]

Good point that we actually experienced as we laid the decking out on our deck in the sun to unbend from the shipping tube. The decking we are replacing was teak with a dark stain (who knows...) that was the same level of "hotness". Current installation is under a hardtop bimini but the balance of decking we will be determining what is best.... "Flexiteek" supposedly has solved that issue with a reengineered PVC formula, resulting in a lighter product as well but at a roughly 20-25% premium...

 

[backinblue]

It's probably not too much hotter than a dark teak deck, but regardless, you'll need some footwear when in full hot sun. Be careful about "Flexiteek". I am aware of their product and looked into it too. I think they are a little creative with their marketing literature. What I was told and makes sense to me is the following. Flexiteek's lightweight product undergoes additional factory processing to produce a thinner and lighter product. (Note that the key is that it is thinner, not just lighter. The thinner product is naturally lighter). The extra "machining" or whatever, adds cost. This product supposedly was designed with sailboat racers in mind that care about adding extra weight to their boats. In the sun, it gets just as hot as any other vinyl product of the same color. However, since it has less mass, it will cool off faster when out of the sun. Read their wording carefully. They don't say that it's cooler in the sun, rather that it cools down faster. They have not "solved" the hot deck issue. Actually, a benefit of a deck that doesn't cool as fast is that you may not collect as much morning dew at night. If it were me, I'd stick with a single product throughout.

 

[GB32Patience]

@Backinblue, understood on your points.. ultimately will not be mixxing products here... if anything, economics may take us down the paint/nonskid road if we can determine a suitable color/pattern combination that compliments the Permateek. Very happy with our new decking in the meantime!

 

[backinblue]

@Backinblue, understood on your points.. ultimately will not be mixxing products here... if anything, economics may take us down the paint/nonskid road if we can determine a suitable color/pattern combination that compliments the Permateek. Very happy with our new decking in the meantime!

I love my Permateek. Probably the best upgrade I've done, albeit expensive. Still looks new after several seasons with zero maintenance.

 

[GB32Patience]

Final Permateek Cockpit on GB32

OK, here are some final pics. Still a little glue cleanup and hatch adjustment to do but all in all we are very happy with our investment and the working relationship with the Permateek team, Martin and Ethan up in Quebec. The installation, with a few pointers is do-able. My wife and I were able to install, not without a few frantic moments but very satisfied ultimately. Here are a few shots: Thanks to all for all the support and input on this project.

 

[Comodave]

Looks very nice.

 

[backinblue]

Nice job. I wasn't brave enough to take on the installation myself.

 

[Choices]

Way better than I was expecting. Good job.

Are you and the wife still speaking?

 

[CharlieO.]

You do good work Bruce, did I miss it or did you do a write up on your tank replacement?

 

[Comodave]

I love my Permateek. Probably the best upgrade I've done, albeit expensive. Still looks new after several seasons with zero maintenance.

Key thing is zero maintenance.

 

[GB32Patience]

Bingo... or a powerwash every now and then......

 

[backinblue]

I wouldn't powerwash, not that you couldn't, but not necessary. I just hose it off and clean it the same as the rest of the decking. Occasionally with a deck brush and soap, but normally just a rinse.

 

[GB32Patience]

@backinblue: Agree there on the powerwash... the Permateek folks offer as an option but I think as well that a reasonable scrub brush will do the trick..
@CharlieO: Thanks for comments, I'll get you over a few shots of Moeller install. Fairly happy with it. Heading for a two week jaunt this weekend... Greenport, Shelter Island, Block Island... old stomping grounds and some pretty places.

 

[backinblue]

I just treat it like the rest of the deck. Rinse with fresh water is all that's really needed. If I am scrubbing the nonskid with soap and a brush, ill do the teek too, but it doesn't really hold onto dirt or grime. Supposedly the texture and grain are constant through the thickness of the product, so any stains or damage can be scrubbed or sanded out, though I've yet to have to do this even though I've spilled some red wine more than once.

 

[CharlieO.]

Have a fun trip!

 

[GB32Patience]

Images of Moeller Tank Installation

@CharlieO, see below:
Images of mounting new Moeller Tank plus our extravagant head... money well spent....