Iggy
Guru
Why not just add to your house bank and have a good inverter, that's all you are really doing.
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Why not just add to your house bank and have a good inverter, that's all you are really doing.
One thing I would suggest you is to measure how often you are using your toaster/coffee maker/microwave etc and for how long.Okay, I can appreciate the skepticism many of you have with this technology. But I've given it a lot of thought and have come to think of it in boat terms--as a dedicated "inverter battery bank". If I go ahead with this, my plan is to add a 120VAC duplex outlet in the galley, labeled "inverter power" and plug it into the power station. It will run the toaster, coffee maker, 600 watt microwave, and charge the laptop and mobile devices. Keep in mind, the built-in LifePo4 lithium battery can deliver 2400Wh of usable power (equal to 2x4D AGM @ 50%) before needing a charge, which can be achieved overnight from shore power or during generator runs. Just guessing, but I think we could go 2-3 weeks before recharging. (An added bonus for those of us who RV in the off-season or experience power outages, is the portability -- take it off the boat and use it at home or take it on the road. All this for for a mere 1.5 boat unit$! Have I won anyone over?
Of course it will work. For how long depends on what you use and how often.Okay, I can appreciate the skepticism many of you have with this technology. But I've given it a lot of thought and have come to think of it in boat terms--as a dedicated "inverter battery bank". If I go ahead with this, my plan is to add a 120VAC duplex outlet in the galley, labeled "inverter power" and plug it into the power station. It will run the toaster, coffee maker, 600 watt microwave, and charge the laptop and mobile devices. Keep in mind, the built-in LifePo4 lithium battery can deliver 2400Wh of usable power (equal to 2x4D AGM @ 50%) before needing a charge, which can be achieved overnight from shore power or during generator runs. Just guessing, but I think we could go 2-3 weeks before recharging. (An added bonus for those of us who RV in the off-season or experience power outages, is the portability -- take it off the boat and use it at home or take it on the road. All this for for a mere 1.5 boat unit$! Have I won anyone over?
Oh, come on. There was no such conclusion in any of the reports. That's speculation, and/or your opinion.
$299 for a 3k watt inverter at harbor fright with 4 outlets. I have one with 2 outlets.Harbor Freight type inverters can be had for a LOT less than your quote. Usage will be limited by cost but for a couple or few hundred dollars you will certainly be in the 'coffee" business.
Now for the real point of my response:
We get a "ton" of members asking about shipping boats cross country. Most members advise against it for a variety of reasons, high cost and unreliability of the shippers and the potential damage to the boat are probably the top three. How about a first person report on how it went for you? Please include pictures and prices.
Thanks,
pete
The simplest way to make coffee is with a SS 8 cup espresso pot (makes 4 std sized cups) .
There fast and the sound calls when finished.
If your range is not yet propane a Sea Swing stove with a gas burner is quick and can be used for many other chores.
The simplest way is to boil water and open a jar of instant coffee
12 x 25w????Get rid of the electric stove, go propane, and add a gen set. I've messed with large solar array (12 panels) and large battery bank (14) without success in sunny Mexico. Genny is best.
The simplest way is to boil water and open a jar of instant coffee
When we had our sail boat with no generator we used the attached uses 1lb propand cannister and sat in a Cockpit locker very efficient and very safeI recently bought an "east coast" boat and had it shipped to the PNW. It has electric stove plus AC/heat pumps...but no inverter. Our boating season usually begins in the spring and runs to early fall, so many weeks and months cruising and living on board. All of our boats have had inverters, used mostly for making coffee and reheating leftovers for lunch. I recently got a quote for installing an inverter, all to ABYC standards, and it came to $4,800...just to reheat coffee!
Then I learned about portable power stations; basically, a lithium battery in a case with built-in inverter and an assortment of charging inputs and outputs (AC/12VDC/solar). They are available is a range of sizes between 1000-3000 watt output with 1500-3000 Wh capacities. Cost is between $1200-$3000. The one I'm looking at delivers 1000 watts with 2400Wh capacity.
https://www.bluetti.com/collections/1000-2000w/products/blutti-1500wh-portable-power-station
This new technology seems like a great solution for getting occasional AC power without running the genny. Not only do we get pure sine 120VAC power but we also get added battery capacity! Since we visit marinas in-between anchoring, we should have no trouble recharging the power station from our shore power hookup. Plus, the power station would get some charge when we run the generator to charge up the house batteries. Is anyone using one of these units on their boat or RV? What am I missing?
The simplest way is to boil water and open a jar of instant coffee
When you are talking about Lithium batteries, you need to differentiate between lithium ion batteries, which can be probelmatic due to over heating during charging and a possible thermal runaway; and Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries wheich have a much more stable chemistry and are very safe.
Lithium ion batteries have a higher energy density but a significantly lower maximum disharge rate compared to LiFeP. Also, LiFeP batteries can have up to 10x the life cycle limit of lithium ion batteries. And, lithium ion batteries are toxic and can be difficult to dispose of properly.
At Triton Submarines we build our own deep ocean LiFeP batteries, which are oil compensated and function down to full ocean depth (36,000 feet, 16,000 psi) without issue. Our Triton 36,000/2, the deepest diving submersible in history, has about $1 million worth of batteries aboard). We use LiFeP batteries extensively in our submersibles and the batteries are certified by DNV/GL. We've never had an issue. But we don't use Lithium Ion batteries at all.
Okay, I can appreciate the skepticism many of you have with this technology. But I've given it a lot of thought and have come to think of it in boat terms--as a dedicated "inverter battery bank". If I go ahead with this, my plan is to add a 120VAC duplex outlet in the galley, labeled "inverter power" and plug it into the power station. It will run the toaster, coffee maker, 600 watt microwave, and charge the laptop and mobile devices. Keep in mind, the built-in LifePo4 lithium battery can deliver 2400Wh of usable power (equal to 2x4D AGM @ 50%) before needing a charge, which can be achieved overnight from shore power or during generator runs.?