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The complaint in New Zealand is that the budget minded boat owners can no longer clean or antifoul on a tidal grid.
They have to haul out and wash to a suitable water trap.
They do have a point when the marina structures are covered with the invasive weeds with no requirements for the marina owners to do anything.
 
It's amazing to me that where I am in FL, they power wash right into the St. Lucie river.
 
Here’s a boat that’s interesting to me:

https://www.soundingsonline.com/boa...cQA&utm_content=264653670&utm_source=hs_email

It’s not a ‘trawler’ by most definitions, but to me fits the general category with its salty looks, reverse-raked windshield, and seemingly sturdy construction and good seakeeping abilities.

There’s a lot I like about the design, especially the no-nonsense full walk-around side decks (an absolute must-have dealbreaker for me). Perfect size (for my use, often single-handing). Nice to see stern drives available instead of pods (another dealbreaker for me, can’t do pods). Speed capability is double what I personally would use, but hey, just throttle back.

Much less interesting to me is the price. Which in my case would be marriage-ending (and probably the loss of some external organs in the process).

Anyone here have a Targa?
 
Here’s a boat that’s interesting to me:

https://www.soundingsonline.com/boa...cQA&utm_content=264653670&utm_source=hs_email

It’s not a ‘trawler’ by most definitions, but to me fits the general category with its salty looks, reverse-raked windshield, and seemingly sturdy construction and good seakeeping abilities.

There’s a lot I like about the design, especially the no-nonsense full walk-around side decks (an absolute must-have dealbreaker for me). Perfect size (for my use, often single-handing). Nice to see stern drives available instead of pods (another dealbreaker for me, can’t do pods). Speed capability is double what I personally would use, but hey, just throttle back.

Much less interesting to me is the price. Which in my case would be marriage-ending (and probably the loss of some external organs in the process).

Anyone here have a Targa?

Personally, I'd consider stern drives just as bad as pods. Similar corrosion concerns, similar issue with more maintenance items that require a haulout, sensors that require proprietary equipment to calibrate on the modern ones, etc.
 
Personally, I'd consider stern drives just as bad as pods. Similar corrosion concerns, similar issue with more maintenance items that require a haulout, sensors that require proprietary equipment to calibrate on the modern ones, etc.

Agreed on stern drives. I’d only consider for fresh water use.
 
The stern drive would be the only part of the boat in the water at 43 knots!
 
The stern drive would be the only part of the boat in the water at 43 knots!

Get your crash helmet, wear your auto PFD and strap yourself in and plan on refueling frequently. LOL
 
Stern drives in saltwater are like Alka-Seltzer in any water. Also... In any water... stern drives can become a big, expensive pita!
 
Personally, I'd consider stern drives just as bad as pods. Similar corrosion concerns, similar issue with more maintenance items that require a haulout, sensors that require proprietary equipment to calibrate on the modern ones, etc.

I much prefer straight drive, but could live with stern drive. Pods would be a dealbreaker for me.

In my used boat search I came across 3 pod boats, all of which had low hours but new engines (and electricals and generators). All 3 had a strike, ripped off a pod. Yes, they’re supposed to form a water-right seal, but each of these 3 didn’t, and flooded the engine compartments. Turned me off to pods for life.

At least stern drives can be tilted out of the water for some maintenance access.

What I couldn’t live with is the price. But that’s because of my personal bank account and no fault of the boat.
 
I much prefer straight drive, but could live with stern drive. Pods would be a dealbreaker for me.

In my used boat search I came across 3 pod boats, all of which had low hours but new engines (and electricals and generators). All 3 had a strike, ripped off a pod. Yes, they’re supposed to form a water-right seal, but each of these 3 didn’t, and flooded the engine compartments. Turned me off to pods for life.

At least stern drives can be tilted out of the water for some maintenance access.

What I couldn’t live with is the price. But that’s because of my personal bank account and no fault of the boat.

Curious as to make, I know Sabre is big on pods. Some of the Grand Banks East Bay as well. I'd like to have a 48 to 66 Sabre but they can be pricy.
 
Curious as to make, I know Sabre is big on pods. Some of the Grand Banks East Bay as well. I'd like to have a 48 to 66 Sabre but they can be pricy.

FWIW, all three of the boats I saw with that history were Sabres (40/42).

It was a shame. I love Sabres, owned a 36 Flybridge Sedan about 15 years ago. Would have happily bought another Sabre. But not after seeing those three examples all with similar stories.

After that pods became an absolute deal-breaker for me. I just can't do it. The additional maintenance costs are a nuisance but I could live with that. What I couldn't live with is the possibility of such a very unpleasant outcome to hitting something in the water. Lots of railroad ties floating around out there. I wouldn't want one to be the start of a very bad day with no good outcome.
 
I think I recall seeing something about flood partitioning for pod drives. Seems like a good idea to isolate flooding to a single engine.

They're pretty impressive for high speed efficiency, dockside handling, and interior design. I can see a case for them for some folks, though probably not many here. Always pluses and minuses...

It strikes me that the costs of mishaps are largely borne by insurance underwriters. I wonder whether rates are higher for pod drives.

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It strikes me that the costs of mishaps are largely borne by insurance underwriters. I wonder whether rates are higher for pod drives.

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I'm less worried about the cost of repairs (though new engines, pods, generator, wiring, etc. could run as much as a small house) but much more so the bad things that can happen. If I was in a pod boat and tore one off after hitting something, the first thing I'd be worried about would most definitely not be who's going to pay the repair costs.

There's no upside to major flooding in a boat, or losing propulsion. One of the boats I saw actually sank as a result of the strike (and was a salvage sale), fortunately the water wasn't deep. Sinking in water deeper than I could stand up in would be a Very Bad Day indeed.
 
There's no upside to major flooding in a boat, or losing propulsion. One of the boats I saw actually sank as a result of the strike (and was a salvage sale), fortunately the water wasn't deep. Sinking in water deeper than I could stand up in would be a Very Bad Day indeed.

Sure, but it's entirely preventable with sensible design. Risk of sinking or losing both engines doesn't have to be any higher with pods IMO. It's not like exposed props and rudders in a conventional drive are invulnerable.


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Sure, but it's entirely preventable with sensible design. Risk of sinking or losing both engines doesn't have to be any higher with pods IMO. It's not like exposed props and rudders in a conventional drive are invulnerable.

I just did a virtual tour of a Sabre ER. Wow. I can see the vulnerability.

Maybe pods and sensible design don't go together...



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Here are a couple of boats I found interesting. Location Lulu's Homeport Marina Orange Beach, Alabama. Lulu is Jimmy Buffet's sister.
The steel trawler is Ulysses (and for sale) the sailboat is "Old Squaw"

She is beautiful.
 
Could be the dream boat for us here
Comfort in the back half, party in the front half

Run big shade/solar array out the front, BBQ area, inflatable pool (for crocodile and stinger waters) and a small vehicle garage.
Drop ramp and cool breezes blowing in at anchor
Drop it further into water and your own private beach

Bump up on public boat ramp, drop the front and vehicle off for exploring.

Add spuds in each corner, secure anchoring and can be supported for maintenance.
 

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Considering their legislature passed laws allowing use of radioactive waste for roads, nothing surprises me about Florida's ecological disasters.

Interesting article in NYT about impact of phosphates from commercial mono crop farming and resultant algae in Lake Okeechobee. Algae so bad as to present a health hazard. Also outflow impacting both coasts and as far south as Miami. Current plans to ameliorate deemed inadequate by many and also not sufficient to meet future flood risks. Hope for a dry summer for Floridians. But given due to MMCC hurricanes appear to produce more rain per event so it’s not if but when.

Just like with boat insurance expect fewer vendors and higher premiums. Although we all bear the result expect it will be worse for Florida natives.
 
The South Steyne

https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boat...city-1938-art-deco-floating-restaurant/297345
It`s no trawler but to a Sydneysider with maritime interest, it`s significant. History starts with construction in Scotland and a coal fired delivery voyage to Sydney Australia, where it operated for many years as a route ferry to Manly, with regular coastal day cruises and following the Sydney -Hobart fleet down the coast. A fire led to its Govt operators electing to take it out of service, various owners followed, eventually it became a static restaurant.
Our Govt is dumping some overseas built catamaran ferries with asbestos issues, steering issues,helm windows you can`t see out of at night, engine control issues, etc, and reviving using the big slow ferries that followed South Steyne. I harbor the forlorn hope Govt picks up South Steyne.
I confess to being onboard the night it was hired by Sydney University. Among other bad events the fire sprinklers got activated, leading to the cruise being terminated and met by Police at disembarkation.
Anyway take a look, I think it`s beautiful and hope something good happens to what is undoubtedly part of Sydney`s maritime history.
You`ll have to view the listing,unusually I can`t copy and paste the advert images, the hull out of the water is spectacular.
 
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Such a beautiful old lady of a boat! The anchor in one photo looks small enough to be a pretty funny accessory... if anchoring were actually needed.
 
If anyone is interested in excursion boats built to current passenger standards but with a strong eye toward naval history go to Scarano in New York.

Beautiful things in both pure oil screw and auxiliary .

https://www.scaranoboat.com/
 
I really like this boat. I feel like I might have posted this in the past but not sure....not a terrible price but I wonder what condition she is in. She looks like a real boat!

1982 Miller Marine North sea trawler Ed Monk 67ft US$679,000

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1982-miller-marine-north-sea-trawler-ed-monk-8858688/



67' trawler yacht built by the Miller boat yard on Bainbridge Island Washington. She is designed by Ed Monk JR. and styled after the Malahide, Nordhavn, Romsdal, north sea trawler form. She is powered by twin Volvo diesels each turning there own props, with 3000 gals of fuel she is capable of making long voyages. She is well laid out providing three cabins and three heads. Her well appointed galley features household appliances and allows the chef fantastic views while preparing meals. She has a Hurricane diesel furnace. She is stabilized by naiad hydraulic fins, new Northern Lights Gen set 35 hrs, full size washer and dryer, vacuflush head systems, full updated electronics, Complete rewire with panels, new plumbing. She carries a nice yachtline Zodiac tender with a 50hp honda, hydraulic windlass, bow thruster. The pilothouse is beautifully finished in rich teak and allows a 360' view from the functional Stidd helm seat. Her design allows for complete walk around side decks covered in teak. She is truly a gentleman's yacht which turns heads in every marina she visits
 

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https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boat...city-1938-art-deco-floating-restaurant/297345
It`s no trawler but to a Sydneysider with maritime interest, it`s significant. History starts with construction in Scotland and a coal fired delivery voyage to Sydney Australia, where it operated for many years as a route ferry to Manly, with regular coastal day cruises and following the Sydney -Hobart fleet down the coast. A fire led to its Govt operators electing to take it out of service, various owners followed, eventually it became a static restaurant.
Our Govt is dumping some overseas built catamaran ferries with asbestos issues, steering issues,helm windows you can`t see out of at night, engine control issues, etc, and reviving using the big slow ferries that followed South Steyne. I harbor the forlorn hope Govt picks up South Steyne.
I confess to being onboard the night it was hired by Sydney University. Among other bad events the fire sprinklers got activated, leading to the cruise being terminated and met by Police at disembarkation.
Anyway take a look, I think it`s beautiful and hope something good happens to what is undoubtedly part of Sydney`s maritime history.
You`ll have to view the listing,unusually I can`t copy and paste the advert images, the hull out of the water is spectacular.


They were of the pushmipullyu variant it would seem

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