Interesting boats

[Hippocampus]

Agree. Good post R.

A 1939 woodie here in Beaufort sc

 

[rslifkin]

Agree. Good post R.

A 1939 woodie here in Beaufort sc

Is that actually a woodie? It's almost a dead ringer for a Scout 30. If that's wood, it must be pretty much exactly the boat the Scout 30 was modeled after.

 

[Hippocampus]

Saw it out of the water. Definitely wood. After getting wet they left it in the slings over night to swell. Then rehauled as she leaked at the plank where the upper bronze fitting for the rudder post is. Fixed that and relaunched. Now sitting on the opposing side of the dock we’re on. Plaque on the back says 1939. Engine looked like a Grey to me when I peeked as they were working on it. Spotless inside and out. New brightwork, canvas and soft goods. A rich man’s toy but drop dead gorgeous. Would guess around 43-45’ loa.

Near the dirt dwelling there’s Gannon and Benjamin. They do new plank on frame. Some outside or under an open frame so you can watch. Fascinating and a nearly lost art. In another life being a true shipwright has its appeal. Making things of beauty.

Been to Lunenburg and Covey island. Those boats are modern strip plank. As strong and maintenance free as grp. Stronger by weight as well. But there’s something about wood that speaks to you which plastic doesn’t. Too bad Americans are scared of it so resale is difficult.

 

[mvweebles]

Thinking about it, I've seen quite a few mentions here of 10% fuel reserve. Personally, that's much tighter planning than I'm comfortable with. And on some boats, 10% may really mean you have half that before the pickups start sucking air (especially if it's not dead calm). I don't really like to plan with less than 25 - 30% reserve.

Depends on how well you know your boat and what the circumstances are. AKDoug in his Willard 30 left Santa Barbara with (if I remember) 90-gallons. He originally planned to stop for fuel at either Bodega Bay (~300nms) or Fort Bragg (370nms). He really wanted to make Eureka (additional 80nms) but didn't think he had enough for 10% reserve. By the time he got to Ft Bragg, he was confident he could continue the additional 80nms. I'd be curious to know how much he had in reserve when he fueled.

Another example: When the Nordhavn 40 was preparing for the Around the World gig they did in the early 2000s, Jim Leishman had a metered day-tank installed based on their runs to Seattle and back (I think they made a couple long runs). I think the boat carried around 925 gals of diesel - they arrived in Hawaii, the longest leg of their circumnavigation, with something less than 50-gals of diesel. They could do this for two reasons: First, because of the day tank, they could suck the main tanks tanks dry without fear of picking-up air into the engine. Second, they knew their boat very well and actuall powered-up the RPMs the last couple days knowing they had fuel.

Rslifkin, I do not disagree with you, but savvy long range cruisers really get dialed-in to their boat. 10% reserve is acceptable but you are right, does not leave a lot to chance.

Peter

 

[rslifkin]

Depends on how well you know your boat and what the circumstances are. AKDoug in his Willard 30 left Santa Barbara with (if I remember) 90-gallons. He originally planned to stop for fuel at either Bodega Bay (~300nms) or Fort Bragg (370nms). He really wanted to make Eureka (additional 80nms) but didn't think he had enough for 10% reserve. By the time he got to Ft Bragg, he was confident he could continue the additional 80nms. I'd be curious to know how much he had in reserve when he fueled.

Another example: When the Nordhavn 40 was preparing for the Around the World gig they did in the early 2000s, Jim Leishman had a metered day-tank installed based on their runs to Seattle and back (I think they made a couple long runs). I think the boat carried around 925 gals of diesel - they arrived in Hawaii, the longest leg of their circumnavigation, with something less than 50-gals of diesel. They could do this for two reasons: First, because of the day tank, they could suck the main tanks tanks dry without fear of picking-up air into the engine. Second, they knew their boat very well and actuall powered-up the RPMs the last couple days knowing they had fuel.

Rslifkin, I do not disagree with you, but savvy long range cruisers really get dialed-in to their boat. 10% reserve is acceptable but you are right, does not leave a lot to chance.

Peter

Things like day tanks to minimize unusable fuel definitely allow for cutting it tighter. And cutting arrival fuel tighter by speeding up is ok, as you've determined you can comfortably make your destination at that point. Same thought process as the diversion decision point logic.

Doug's situation is one I'd be more comfortable with. Plan to fuel at location A, but if you reach decision point B with at least X gallons in the tanks, then continue to destination C. You've got options there, so things can be cut tighter without potentially losing the ability to divert for fuel.

 

[Hippocampus]

Also weather routing has become so much more reliable. Fuel use per nm is in part dependent on sea state and ocean currents. Now neither are as much of a crapshoot.

 

[OldDan1943]

Reminds me when the convoyed to Bermuda. The N40 had to refuel from a larger N while underway. They did it with a garden hose an displacement pump.

 

[Adopo]

Agree. Good post R.

A 1939 woodie here in Beaufort sc

How cool is that, and thank you for posting. Yes the Scout 30 could in fact be a more modern copy of this. I had to type in more modern. Hard to believe 1980 was 43 years ago!

Taking mine down to Hinckley in Savannah on Thursday for the varnish shed and other. Decided to have a trailer made after a hauler showed up and my boat would not load. Fingers crossed.

Pictured is the trailer that brought it down from SW Harbor ME.

 

[Adopo]

Here is an elusive rare 49 foot Lord Nelson Victory Tug, the one I would would want. So much wood on the interior! And look at the room in the engine room. Of course those wide angle lenses do their trick...and I saw under the brokers section that the 55 foot boat house could be purchased for I think 88k.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1988-lord-nelson-victory-tug-49-8825359/

Some interesting specs...

In addition to the amazing ability for a cruising range of 3000 miles you are insured of safe and trouble free cruising. Manito has the feature of an upper helm station which is not standard on all Victory Tug's.

Enormous structural integrity
Solid wood joinery, teak and holly soles
Large windows allowing 360 degree visibility and fresh air
Large and clean engine room
Upper deck with mast and tender
Off shore cruising design
Manito is hull number 8 out of 9 Victory Tug 49's built

 

[Adopo]

a few more...

 

[Adopo]

and a few more...

 

[Adopo]

Well, I guess I like tugs. This is a real tug. Cool Story, was found in front of a restaurant.

https://au.yachtworld.com/yacht/1936-classic-warner-tug-8843003/

1936 Classic Warner Tug

The Warner bow tug CADET was built in Kennebunkport, Maine, by Bernard Warner in 1936 for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. In 2001 John Foss, owner of North End Shipyard in Rockland, discovered CADET adorning the parking lot of a restaurant in East Boothbay. He purchased her for a dollar and over the next 10 years CADET was completely rebuilt from original plans supplied by the builder’s grandson.

CADET was outfitted with a warm, cozy interior for coastal cruising: In the forepeak is a workshop space with a 6’ workbench that could be used as a bunk. Aft of the forepeak is the pilothouse with engine compartment underneath. The entire pilothouse sole is removable for excellent access to the machinery space, which also houses the generator, batteries, fuel filters, etc.

From the pilot house heading aft, you descend a few steps, and there is a galley on the starboard side with a Dickenson diesel stove and self-contained fridge/freezer. Across on the port side is a large head with standup shower, sink vanity, and VacuFlush toilet system.

Aft of the head and galley is the saloon with a pilot berth on the starboard side, and a large settee on the port side that folds out to a double bed. From the salon heading aft you ascend a few steps to the large open aft deck, which is often occupied by some Adirondack chairs or a folding table.

Despite her traditional appearance, CADET is very modern from a systems point of view. Please reach out for a copy of a 2020 survey listing all of CADET’s equipment and machinery specifications.

CADET remains in excellent structural condition from her recent rebuild, and all exterior surfaces were repainted within the past few years. I can’t imagine a classier coastal cruiser or day-tripper for an individual or couple with an appreciation for beautiful tugs of a bygone era.

 

[Adopo]

a few more..

 

[Sababa]

This 1967 Willard repowered John Deeres is a sweet looking ride!

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1967-willard-dover-8848112/

 

[Adopo]

This 1967 Willard repowered John Deeres is a sweet looking ride!

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1967-willard-dover-8848112/

Very cool boat, I would post the pictures but with YWs new format it will not let me open the smaller pictures under the large ones. I like to post them because the links will expire at some point....

 

[BruceK]

It Could Have Trawled

Definitely interesting for trawler enthusiasts. Engine brand is "interesting" too. Trawler meets residential apartment interior but, it`s a real boat. The original triple engine design is noteworthy too. Something for everyone.
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/challenger/289499

 

[Art]

Definitely interesting for trawler enthusiasts. Engine brand is "interesting" too. Trawler meets residential apartment interior but, it`s a real boat. The original triple engine design is noteworthy too. Something for everyone.
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/challenger/289499

Interesting boat. True liveaboard. So much White Color [everywhere] makes me wince! Nose wave looks like she pushes some water...

 

[O C Diver]

Couple of interesting boats.

Saw this one on Manasquan river in New Jersey. It's clearly a dragger with the frame for the clam dredge behind the superstructure. It just seems odd not having it in the bow, instead of blocking access to the deck.



This sailboat is in New York Harbor. While I don't get excited about sailboats, I rather like its clean lines and graceful stern.

Ted

 

[wkearney99]

Saw this one on Manasquan river in New Jersey. It's clearly a dragger with the frame for the clam dredge behind the superstructure. It just seems odd not having it in the bow, instead of blocking access to the deck.

No idea how that rig works in action, but here's more pix:

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ph...shipname:CHRISTI CAROLINE?order=date_uploaded

 

[Simi 60]

Definitely interesting for trawler enthusiasts. Engine brand is "interesting" too. Trawler meets residential apartment interior but, it`s a real boat. The original triple engine design is noteworthy too. Something for everyone.
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/challenger/289499

Have seen her around a few times
I do envy her with those batwing stabilisers
Seen them in action and they do work a treat

 

[Snapdragon III]

I thought this one was pretty sexy. Too much for me, but looks like a great yacht.
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1982-miller-marine-north-sea-trawler-ed-monk-8858688/

 

[Adopo]

Malta yesterday. What a lovely place.

 

[OldDan1943]

OFF TOPIC. Sorry about that.

Thanks to the US Navy, I was able to ‘visit’ Gibraltar and Malta.
I recommend, if possible, to visit both.
If you have even a little bit of interest in WWII, both will hold your interest for days if not weeks, via guided tours.
Gibraltar has many passages and rooms carved deep into the rock plus bun ports aimed at Spain.

 

[Art]

I thought this one was pretty sexy. Too much for me, but looks like a great yacht.
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1982-miller-marine-north-sea-trawler-ed-monk-8858688/

Love the boat. Don't like Volvo engines. Having heard/read so many stories of hard to accommodate needs for Volvo engines... Can't imagine getting parts/service for decades old Volvos.

Full engine replacements would likely be in the $200K range... +

 

[backinblue]

Love the boat. Don't like Volvo engines. Having heard/read so many stories of hard to accommodate needs for Volvo engines... Can't imagine getting parts/service for decades old Volvos.

Full engine replacements would likely be in the $200K range... +

Was this statement necessary?

"She is powered by twin Volvo diesels each turning there own props"

 

[rslifkin]

Love the boat. Don't like Volvo engines. Having heard/read so many stories of hard to accommodate needs for Volvo engines... Can't imagine getting parts/service for decades old Volvos.

Full engine replacements would likely be in the $200K range... +

I agree, but for older Volvos, it would be worth some research. It seems like some models are a real pain to get parts for, others aren't so bad. Access to service techs for the newer stuff where less of the work is DIY friendly seems to be a bigger problem.

 

[Art]

Was this statement necessary?

"She is powered by twin Volvo diesels each turning there own props"

Was your question necessary regarding my personally stated impression of a boat? I tell it like I see-it/feel-it ... after 7 + decades of boating, listening, watching, experiencing. Nothing more, nothing less.

TF posts are filled with cautionary statements provided by boating persons' experiences. I believe this is a good thing... as items appear that both new and old boaters reading TF posts may learn cautionary things they previously were not aware of.

It's up to the reader of posts to do full-on research and make their own decision.

You have Volvos?

 

[backinblue]

Was your question necessary regarding my personally stated impression of a boat? I tell it like I see-it/feel-it ... after 7 + decades of boating, listening, watching, experiencing. Nothing more, nothing less.

TF posts are filled with cautionary statements provided by boating persons' experiences. I believe this is a good thing... as items appear that both new and old boaters reading TF posts may learn cautionary things they previously were not aware of.

It's up to the reader of posts to do full-on research and make their own decision.

You have Volvos?

Sorry Art. No, what I meant was did the ad need to state that each engine is driving it's own prop? How else would they work?

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. b. Your post #13195- "Was this statement necessary?" I think, yes, it was. For example: Many moons ago there was a member with a, now, 109 year old vessel driven by a single prop coupled to twin DD 671's. http://strathbelle.com/.
I've lost track of Gene (owner) but last I heard he owned Salt Ponds Marina in Virginia. https://saltpondsmarinaresort.com/index.html

Edit:

Looks like Gene still owns Salt Ponds. https://www.bbb.org/us/va/hampton/profile/marina/salt-ponds-marina-resort-0583-35000406

 

[backinblue]

RT, you are technically correct but how many twin engine boats built in the last 50 years have engines and 1 prop?