Blue Goose
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- Dec 25, 2014
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- Vessel Name
- Blue Goose
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- Mainship Pilot 30 Sedan
Go for a Rocna or Mantus. Good hold, good reset, good nights sleep. Also carry a Fortress for stern or emergency.
Yes I think Rex of Anchor Right didn't like it when someone called his SARCA a plough anchor but what else can it be called?Quite simply, because they are not. A true plough (plow is US speak), has only one blade, (or several mounted one behind the other), and prevented from digging too deep by the frame and wheels of the machine they are mounted on, which is called a plough. They are shaped to slice out to a depth and turn the ground over.
The blade is curved rather like say, one half of the convex type anchor, and so these anchors are commonly referred to as plows, purely as a result of cursory observation re the shape, but incorrect, because they are made up of two mirror image blades, fused at their upper edge, forming if anything a wedge, but a wedge, which if you look at it from the pointy end, is shaped such that it does not plough up the bottom, turning it over and out like a farm plough, but rather is shaped so as to continue to try and dive deeper. just as long as there is forward movement through the substrate (bottom).
This latter fact is something Marin never quite seemed to grasp, when he supported the concave (what you are calling scooped), shape as preferable, because he felt something 'streamlined' like the convex fluke would come out through the bottom more easily. He was missing the tendency for that shape to help it dig deeper, as Steve's 'anchor setting videos" in fact show. He was right about one thing, however, and that is those concave (scooped) flukes sure do bring (scoop) up a heap more bottom to dump on your deck or need to be hosed off. Does that answer your question Eric, & others..?
Not to brag (well, maybe a little), but I don't believe that there is another 70 lb anchor in the world that could come close to meeting the performance standard that was required for approval aboard a vessel of this size.
Hi Peter,
Bedtime .. but you say the SARCA isn't a plough. If it isn't please put the propper label on it so we can classify it w the other anchors.
Yes I remember Marin's engineering expressed opinions. But remember that a concave shape resists movement better than a convex. Perhaps he had that on his mind.
Chris I think the Back Hoe/Super Max is a scoop anchor. Tell me why not if your inclined.
... a wedge, which if you look at it from the pointy end, is shaped such that it does not plough up the bottom, turning it over and out like a farm plough, but rather is shaped so as to continue to try and dive deeper. just as long as there is forward movement through the substrate (bottom).
Surely the Super Sarca fluke is both concave and convex, depends which side you view it from, top or underneath.
If you take the CQR as a classic example of a plow/plough blade, the SS is nothing like one. It gets closer to a disc plough, except it`s triangular not round, and it operates blade parallel to the surface being "ploughed", not at a right angle, like a disc or blade plough.
Hard to call it a plough imo.
Courtesy of Anchor Right, this may help Eric...
There's no such thing as roll bar anchors as roll bars are an auxiliary function .. not primary. All roll bar anchors are scoop or plow as a primary identification feature.
As to the name "Back Hoe" it does clearly fit better but scoop fits too and it's established. Like I said I like the Back Hoe name but it's a name for something else.
Here's an image of a new 154-ft US Coast Guard Sentinel-class cutter during a recent March commissioning in Puerto Rico. This vessel displaces 353 long tons (about 791k lbs) and its primary anchor (mounted on bow) is the Fortress FX-125, which weighs about 70 lbs.
Not to brag (well, maybe a little), but I don't believe that there is another 70 lb anchor in the world that could come close to meeting the performance standard that was required for approval aboard a vessel of this size.
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My choice. All chain ( 5/16" HT) on the Vucan and 100' chain and 150' rope on the Fortress.
Dave,
I think the exchange rate is still good for us.
Well the choices expressed here are amazing in that there is an extremely wide variety.
Anchor. Votes
Excel. 5
Supreme. 5
Rocna. 4
Mantus. 3
Delta. 3
Fortress. 2
SARCA. 2
Super Max. 2
Bruce. 2
Vulcan. 1
Danforth. 1
Spade. 1
AC-14 Stockless. 1
13 anchors chosen w only 32 votes. No consensus really. A very wide varity of choices.
Nevertheless, this is quite contrary to anchors I've observed on boats. ... Possibly due to inactive boaters ... or people justifying their new investments.