JanisK
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2011
- Messages
- 88
- Location
- Australia
- Vessel Name
- NightinGayle
- Vessel Make
- Tradewinds 42
Thanks to everyone for your responses. I'm finding it a very useful discussion.
This issue has come up for me because:
a) my primary CQR is at the end of its useful working life
b) because the original setup of the roller and winch are wrong. The chain does not have a straight pull through because of the angle between roller and winch wildcat. Its at an angle and the PO has tried to compensate for the when the anchor shank comes up over the roller it tries to pull off the s/s bowsprit track following the line of the chain to the wildcat. As there is no bail he has bolted two vertical aluminium "guides" to the front of the sprit. However these have over time got a bit mangled. So there is a fix to be made.
c) my bowsprit pulpit is 200mm (c. 8") wide so could accommodate a dual roller set up I think.
d) whilst Im new at anchoring Ive been doing a lot of reading and Earl Hinz says "When a boat sets two anchors it is said to be moored. The anchors may both be off the bow, or they may be fore and aft... There are several reasons why a skipper would want to moor rather than simply anchor (ie with a single anchor set). One is to reduce the size of the swinging circle so that more boats can be anchored in the same area. Another allows the boat to be moored in a narrow channel or close to a land mass. A third allows the boat to ride out a severe storm where excessive sheering or horsing of the boat may take place when riding on only one anchor. Moorings are advisable when anchoring in a tidal river... in marginal holding ground... (if) shelter is limited... if... the boat is left unattended for a while..."
In "the Complete Anchoring Handbook" by Alain Poiraud et al he is similarly emphatic on the benefits of dual anchoring.
e) I have aspirations when I retire in 6-12 months to start travelling up and down the east coast of Australia (Im in the southern state of Victoria at the moment) and it is a very long coast line with lots of bays, rivers, harbours etc where ther will undoubtedly be a diversity of sand, mud, rock coral sea beds. And tight and crowded anchorages depending on the time of year. Not to mention the odd storm.
f) whilst I have a V shaped snubber which I would use to run through both sides hawsers and tie off on the sampson post, I also have a single line snubber for less onerous occasions which would be easier to set up quickly and run over a second roller thus eliminatiing chafing with the anchor chain.
So it seems to me that there a quite a few logical reasons to get a dual set up. I must confess I am rather surprised at how few there seem to be out there. So I guess the real question is am I overthinking and over engineering this. Should I just get a single roller and and get over it?
The current setup is below:
Thanks again for your help.
Janis
This issue has come up for me because:
a) my primary CQR is at the end of its useful working life
b) because the original setup of the roller and winch are wrong. The chain does not have a straight pull through because of the angle between roller and winch wildcat. Its at an angle and the PO has tried to compensate for the when the anchor shank comes up over the roller it tries to pull off the s/s bowsprit track following the line of the chain to the wildcat. As there is no bail he has bolted two vertical aluminium "guides" to the front of the sprit. However these have over time got a bit mangled. So there is a fix to be made.
c) my bowsprit pulpit is 200mm (c. 8") wide so could accommodate a dual roller set up I think.
d) whilst Im new at anchoring Ive been doing a lot of reading and Earl Hinz says "When a boat sets two anchors it is said to be moored. The anchors may both be off the bow, or they may be fore and aft... There are several reasons why a skipper would want to moor rather than simply anchor (ie with a single anchor set). One is to reduce the size of the swinging circle so that more boats can be anchored in the same area. Another allows the boat to be moored in a narrow channel or close to a land mass. A third allows the boat to ride out a severe storm where excessive sheering or horsing of the boat may take place when riding on only one anchor. Moorings are advisable when anchoring in a tidal river... in marginal holding ground... (if) shelter is limited... if... the boat is left unattended for a while..."
In "the Complete Anchoring Handbook" by Alain Poiraud et al he is similarly emphatic on the benefits of dual anchoring.
e) I have aspirations when I retire in 6-12 months to start travelling up and down the east coast of Australia (Im in the southern state of Victoria at the moment) and it is a very long coast line with lots of bays, rivers, harbours etc where ther will undoubtedly be a diversity of sand, mud, rock coral sea beds. And tight and crowded anchorages depending on the time of year. Not to mention the odd storm.
f) whilst I have a V shaped snubber which I would use to run through both sides hawsers and tie off on the sampson post, I also have a single line snubber for less onerous occasions which would be easier to set up quickly and run over a second roller thus eliminatiing chafing with the anchor chain.
So it seems to me that there a quite a few logical reasons to get a dual set up. I must confess I am rather surprised at how few there seem to be out there. So I guess the real question is am I overthinking and over engineering this. Should I just get a single roller and and get over it?
The current setup is below:
Thanks again for your help.
Janis