ghostrider454
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This is what you end up with when you get obsessed with the fear of infinitesimally small risks. Its like wearing a kevlar bodysuit every time you go swimming in the ocean because it is theoretically possible that a shark will eat you.
When you consider what they built it for -- Arctic Exploration -- it will shelter them well.
...in the strict definition that you guys want to adhere to, I could cruise to the Bahamas or Cuba, in fact most of the Carribean, and not be offshore? Not trying to argue, but 100 miles from land is still not offshore?
Sorry for not replying sooner OldDan1943 been busy working on boat and just catching up with the thread.
Small drip on water pump so I replaced. Replaced belts. And decided to replace belt tensioner as well. Oil, filters and all on engine, generator and transmissions. Pulled ends off exchanger and reviewed. . Did a cycle of barnacle buster through system. Also did zincs inside and out. and had bottom scrubbed. Installed second set of plastic window covering . That’s about all prep We did.
If you read what I wrote there and elsewhere I believe I was very specific as to my definition of "offshore" as relates to my comments. Obviously I need to go to a sailboat forum where "offshore" doesn't mean five miles from the marina.
There isn't just one definition of "offshore" because it depends on the context. USCG says 200 miles for categorization of licensing because the skill set and experience required of a ship's captain crossing an ocean is different than required for near-coastal operation.
In a good year in SoCal we get yellowfin and bluefin tuna, as well as other pelagics, 10-20 miles off the beach in 1500ft of blue water. Any of the zillion sport fisherman chasing those tuna will tell you they are fishing offshore. They are just as correct as any other definition. Inshore fishing is a different ball game. There are plenty of other definitions, but context matters.
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This is what you end up with when you get obsessed with the fear of infinitesimally small risks. Its like wearing a kevlar bodysuit every time you go swimming in the ocean because it is theoretically possible that a shark will eat you.
Gee whiz, 767 people died while pleasure boating in the US in 2020. Considering the very limited average number of hours recreational boats are used annually that hardly appears "infinitesimally small" especially when compared to automobile use and the associated fatalities. I suspect however that your comment was more testosterone based that factually so no foul. Have a nice day.
I fish. That includes giant blue tuna when I get the opportunity. Have caught them at the race just off P’town. Totally get that’s different than fly fishing for stripers off a beach in waders. But have done multiple SDRs and run into people who have cruised significant distances near shore but have neither the experience nor knowledge to outfit their boats correctly nor operate them in an offshore environment.
So accepting the concept of context in my view there’s still a major problem in how the terms are used. My impression is due to the sloppy generic use of offshore for all settings people refer to all settings as offshore and think they are nearly equivalent. They are NOT. So I would prefer everyone use the USCG definitions. But short of that at least use that definition whenever the subject has anything to do with boats and boating. There’s no testosterone when talking about this. Some of the worst weather and biggest breaking wave I’ve seen has been in a coastal setting. The only knockdown in a cruising boat (not small boat racing) was in Block island sound. I continue to believe the incorrect use of offshore when referring to boats is not in the boaters best interest.
Been in touch with the owner of the 46’ DD in SoCal. Awaiting further developments.
I've been off-grid for a few days and caught up on this lengthy thread. The OP asked about prudently cruising the Oregon coast up to the inside passage. Yet the evolution of responses all lead to some form of gold-plated Nordhavn-esque boat or heavily constructed man-cave tank (DD).
Just seems that no matter the question on threads like these, the answer is always the same - gotta have a Nordhavn (or similar). The part that makes me chuckle is I really wonder how many responders have actually made a multi-day passage in a small recreational boat vs just read Beebe et al.
Oh well, good discussion nonetheless. If the OP is still with us, I still contend the ubiquitous 40-ish foot trawler style (or motoryacht style) boat in decent condition would be a great platform to explore the coastline. If he wants to spend more money to resolve last 1%-2% of risk, great. It's a choice. But with reasonable wx and flexible schedule, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to leave port on the trip he describes with a 40 classic trawler. After that, it's personal preference.
Peter
PS - I loved SoCal "Suppository 38" comment on the converted lifeboat.
767 people died while pleasure boating in the US in 2020. Considering the very limited average number of hours recreational boats are used annually that hardly appears "infinitesimally small" especially when compared to automobile use and the associated fatalities.
there are times when it's preferable to have some sea room rather than be constricted.
Gee whiz, 767 people died while pleasure boating in the US in 2020. Considering the very limited average number of hours recreational boats are used annually that hardly appears "infinitesimally small" especially when compared to automobile use and the associated fatalities. I suspect however that your comment was more testosterone based that factually so no foul. Have a nice day.
Your self importance is beyond the pale.
If you are thinking of Moby Duck, that is one fine vessel.Been in touch with the owner of the 46’ DD in SoCal. Awaiting further developments.