rslifkin
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- Rochester, NY
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- Hour Glass
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- Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Of note for fitment / sizing, the Vulcan in my previously posted pictures is the 33kg / 73 lb version.
Of note for fitment / sizing, the Vulcan in my previously posted pictures is the 33kg / 73 lb version.
38 ft boat per your signature block
Most seem to go a size down. That's what I was considering. The 25kg is on the tight side but OK.
Thoughts?
38 ft boat per your signature block
Most seem to go a size down. That's what I was considering. The 25kg is on the tight side but OK.
Thoughts?
We have used a Vulcan 25kg on our H38E with a Mantus Swivel for one season now. (The boat came with a Mantus M1 65lb, purchased by the previous owners, but I swapped it out for the Vulcan--see the separate thread: Bad fitting anchor on Helmsman). I don't know if the swivel is doing much or not, but it came with the boat so we kept it. We also have the original 20kg Bruce that we keep as a backup. So far the setup works just fine, and the anchor has always come up oriented correctly. The only time we had trouble setting was in thick grass that I suspect would have challenged any anchor.
Not getting an anchor from Helmsman. Just chain.
I'll have the anchor pre-ordered and on hand to be installed with commissioning or myself immediately after.
I always recommend doing as he did, one size up from the recommended size.
The Vulcan site has two recommendation pages. One is a drop down menu of selection criteria, and that recommends the 25
Then there is a chart based on length and metric tonnage (2205 lbs to the metric ton). That recommends the 25. The next size up, the 33, has my specs barely touching the range given.
The site says sizes are given for 50 knot winds with poor holding bottom. No way to know just what they are basing the poor bottom conditions on.
I hear you and completely agree in principle with your point. But it does seem that upsizing on this is a bridge too far, including in fit.
There is another element on my mind. Bear with me as I try to explain some logic. It is buried in some analysis paralysis. Having been through a lot of the Panope review videos and watching him read out how many pounds of pressure different anchors handle before breaking loose, the Vulcan numbers were twice as high as some others. A lesser anchor would just demand upsizing to get the same performance. Pound for pound or size for size if this one performs as well as Panope says, upsizing isn't pressured, and I can go with this top performer at 25kg instead of an upsized lesser model that then has fit issues too because of dimensions upsized.
Yeah, I do recognize that this logic works until it doesn't.
Either way, I think its 25kg Vulcan or a different anchor. Dimensions.
Your point is well taken though.
Tonight's effort: trying to pick out Caesarstone countertops.
https://www.caesarstone.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2020/12/5130_Cosmopolitan-White_Full_Slab-1920X616-1-1536x493.jpg
I like it
Had picked out this, but not available at the yard in China
Was looking for a wee bit more texture.
My favorite
6600 Nougat
https://www.caesarstone.ca/catalog/6600-nougat/
It is a lot whiter in real life, like white white
Hello Helmsman owners: One of the projects I have this year is to make it easier to get to the storage bins under the bed. Lifting the mattress with one hand and trying to get in to the bins is a pain. Requires two of us and there is not much room to move. As a result we don't use them and they sit empty.
Someone said they had installed hydraulics in their new boat that lifted the entire bed mattress. Not in my plan.
Have any of you new owners had any discussion with Scott on ideas to make this easier?
Thanks Barrie
The addition of gas struts as a lift aid is one of the common customizations. I’m getting it.
Speaking of rode, how many of you are getting additional chain or rope rode added to your order? If so, how much and what kind?
The addition of gas struts as a lift aid is one of the common customizations. I’m getting it.
Speaking of rode, how many of you are getting additional chain or rope rode added to your order? If so, how much and what kind?
...The ICW is shallow. I suspect I'll seldom use more than 100 ft...
Speaking of rode, how many of you are getting additional chain or rope rode added to your order? If so, how much and what kind?
Hello Helmsman owners: One of the projects I have this year is to make it easier to get to the storage bins under the bed. Lifting the mattress with one hand and trying to get in to the bins is a pain. Requires two of us and there is not much room to move. As a result we don't use them and they sit empty.
Someone said they had installed hydraulics in their new boat that lifted the entire bed mattress. Not in my plan.
Have any of you new owners had any discussion with Scott on ideas to make this easier?
Thanks Barrie
I will add some rode to the end of the chain, to have a combination of both that will be 300 feet. That will also allow for cutting the chain free if there is a stuck anchor. I also plan a 70 foot snubber and a bridle. The snubber will cushion the chain shock, and the bridle will lessen horsing.
I remember when we did our loop I was amazed at all of the shallow water we encountered in the Eastern part of the country. I loved being able to anchor in as little as 5 or 6 feet on the rivers and I don't think we ever had to anchor in more than 25 feet.
Not like that in most of the Pacific Northwest. The further north the deeper it seems to get. You might have to drop the hook in 70-80 feet and with luck you can add a stern tie to shore...I never feel like I have too much rode. Our last sailboat had two 300' all chain rodes, a 65lb. Danforth with a 55lb. Bruce.
--Rick