BruceK
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garbler, be good if you could distinguish between being rude to survey customers and to fellow Forum members. But you can`t.
I don’t see myself as being rude or not nice in fact I don’t try to mold myself to any set of forum personality rules. I treat people fairly and honestly and if somebody interprets my body language or facial expressions as offensive on-line then so be it. I’m on this site not to chit chat, hell I don’t even own a boat anymore, but to offer some honest information from a life time in the marine trades. If nobody wants the information or if I’m a bad fit then just let me know. I’ve got thick skin and certainly won’t take it personal .
Rick
I know it will never happen but I would love to see anyone's list of very best TF contributors.
I once was told here by a controversial contributor on TF that people believed/listened to him rather than me because he was a better writer and understood marketing. Kinda says a lot right there about internet threads. Even I had to admit it seemed true...fortunately a lot PMs have kept me posting.
My problem with some of these discussions is it is hard to separate the truly experienced from the person who has had one or a couple personal experiences. While those experiences apply, they really don't override the experience of those that do something day after day as a career or lifestyle.
I once was told here by a controversial contributor on TF that people believed/listened to him rather than me because he was a better writer and understood marketing.
Marketing is indeed part of getting your message across. I'm reminded of the two brothers who open competing restaurants across the street from each other, but only one succeeds. The first brother advertises "Sushi!!!" Second brother advertises "Raw Dead Fish!!!" Not hard to figure out which one got popular.
For what it's worth Psneeld, pretty sure you'd be on almost all lists of Top 10 TF contributors, including mine.
Peter
Could you tell me the source of “ clueless “ as it is a direct quote your attributing to me for “ collapsing the group “.
This has turned into a free for all!
Face it guys and gals... wood is wood, glass is glass, steel is steel... etc, etc. One boat may be in better condition than the next.
Some on this thread know a little some seem to know a lot. Sharing ideas and experiences is what TF is made for. Not trying to show who wears the biggest boots.
This isn't grade school for grade school squabbles. We're mature adults. At least that was my previous impression.
I have always interpreted "don't have a clue" meaning people don't know what they don't know but aren't necessarily dumb or stupid.
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Clueless on the other hand I do take to be harsh..... meaning that it describes a person that can't find their butt with either hand, let alone both.
If those following this thread think I’m looking for a fight or “ doubling down “ then let me say empathically that this is not the case. I’ve spent time constructing posts for this forum and most are supported by real world facts or my old files. In so doing I’ve attempted to impart some honest information on boat construction and repairs, engines and related system components, boatyard and repair crew procedures, solutions to known vessel class problems, etc. etc. and some history where I could. To those that feel I may be a internet fraud then so be it, but if you’re looking for U-tube or website verification sorry but I’ve never advertised other than business cards. Disagreements are a honest bi-product of discourse and that’s what these forums are, or should be, about. But there are a few who ignore the civil rules of discourse and instead elect to blatantly mis-quote, slander and generally ignore the contents of a post and fabricate statements attributed to a poster that don’t exist. Please carefully read my posts and see for yourself if in fact I’m the fraud and the one posting BS.
Not trying to be incendiary here but everybody should have the right to defend themself.
Rick
In my opinion I would never purchase wooden vessel with out a survey.I am very new to the boat buying process and power boats in general. I have had extensive experience with sailboats (up to 45 ft). I have read, read, read and watch lots of YouTube videos but I wanted to ask the 'experts' in trawler boats and buying from a private seller. I am looking at the following boat and wondered if anyone has any experience with this boat and/or any specific questions. I have a 3 page document that I created of questions to make sure to ask. I know that I should have a survey and sea trial but I don't want to spend the money if there is something blatant that I am missing because I don't know what to look for. I hope that make more sense than how it sounds. Here is what is in the advertisement.
1973 GB Alaskan 52 - Asking price $39,500. Refitted and upgraded Grand Banks Alaskan 49. 2-cabins, 2-heads layout.
Some spects that were listed:
• Mahongany planking on Yacal frames
• Hard-top above aft deck
• 2-cabin, 2-heads layout
• Onan 60 generator
• Inverter Waeco Perfect power
• Air conditioning system
ENGINES:
Engine 1-Make: Ford Lehman Model: 120
Inboard Year: 1973
Fuel: Diesel
Hours: 6200
Drive Type: Direct
Engine 2-Make: Ford Lehman Model: 120
Type: Inboard
Year: 1973
Fuel: Diesel
Hours: 6280
Drive Type:*Direct Transmission:*
Ratio: 2:1 Ratio: 2:1
In the last three years:
• Wooden structure refitted
• Engine discharge
• All new through hulls, glassed, with new sea-strainers and seacocks*
• New shore power electric wires, and inverter
• Overhauled engines and cooling system
• Extensive woodwork removing any wood rot*
• Raymarine navigation instruments + VHF with AIS installed 2021
According to the advertisement the boat needs exterior painting and some varnish. (Also according to the pictures )
I have looked at the pictures extensively and even blown them up looking for any signs of water intrusion, etc. I know that boat has been up for sale for awhile.
I would like to go see the boat but it is a 7.5 hour drive each way for me.
Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all for the wonderful reading and I absolutely love 'Trawler Forum'
All my best,
April
In my opinion I would never purchase wooden vessel with out a survey.
Only if performed by someone who knows timber boats.
For Aussies tempted by a "woody" needing initial inspection or survey ,there are wooden boats still being built,and rebuilt,in Australia. Tasmania, the island state at the southern side of Australia seems to have several.There is Simon Sadubin in Sydney and I expect others, The owner of Presidents Boatshed Sydney, originally the site for building AG Williams cruisers,I think still works. A boat builder is selling a recently built 30ft wooden boat on Lake Macquarie NSW. Afloat magazine is a useful research source.