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There is little reason for us to move from our totally dialed-in NT 37 to another boat with two sleeping cabins. Unfortunately ~50 ft seems to be the minimum length for that feature.

I think it’s a combination of the fully separated pilot house and the full walk around decks cramping the salon. Those are both salty features that I like, but am willing to compromise on to make her happy. She feels the same way about the Selenes.

Two sleeping cabins. My understanding is you have to go 55 which is closer to 60 LOA to get three. My wife also doesn’t like the Flemings, thinks they feel dark and cramped. I don’t really understand the price premium for them.

Another good suggestion. Definitely on my radar.

We really like the layout of these boats and for what they sell for you could do a complete refit and still come out ahead on acquisition cost. What I’d have to figure out is how much of the refit cost you’d be lighting on fire vs the early year depreciation hit of a new boat. For example, if...

Actually, 2-3 years is our time frame. We’d prefer to buy something about 10 years old for under a million. It’s conceivable we might buy something new for up to $2mm, but I’d really need to run some numbers on depreciation and total cost of ownership to get there.

This 1967 Willard repowered John Deeres is a sweet looking ride! https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1967-willard-dover-8848112/

Is your boat stabilized?

Very handsome looking boat from some of the sold listings I was able to pull up. Looks to be 58 LOA, so more than ideal, but still under 60.

The NT 37 really is perfect for us at this stage in our lives. But our specific need is that when our younger one leaves the nest our older one will age out of her residential school for children with disabilities and we will want to be able to take her along with us for long trips and still...

Probably on par with the North Pacific today then, and could come up used. Thanks!

That’s our time frame. Waiting for the nest to empty.

Indeed it is. I don’t even want to know what that would cost new.

Maybe it’s just the lawyer in me but while they say that all the coverage areas on the map are “land regions,” they still say that regional mobility can only be used “on land.” So they could still be leaving themselves some wiggle room to say that you are violating your terms of service by using...

Great suggestion. I’d bend on LOA before anything else. For what I’d pay for any of the examples available right now I could do a complete refit and repower and still be a million to the good over a new boat that checks all my boxes.

I’ve been keeping an eye out for the Helmsman 54 for a while now. Such a tease!

How did you find this page? I don’t get a hit on it when I search support for “Ocean.”

The right hand needs to talk to the left hand because I haven’t gone anywhere with my Starlink that they define as “Ocean” but they said I have in their email telling me to change my account!

About $1.8mm new. Nobody said unicorns were cheap. Something like that wouldn’t happen if at all until we downsize the nest after it empties, God willing. I don’t have proper side decks on my current NT 37 and don’t mind. We usually dock with a midline sprung aft which is pretty easy to cast...

Or all of the fun if there are no unicorns!

I’ve spent plenty of time in Mexico and know what parts fit me and not. Different strokes. It looks like the NP 49E has everything we both want so not unobtainium either.

Yep, that’s absolutely correct. If I wanted to experience things Lonely Planet style I’d buy a backpack instead of a boat.

There are plenty of good reasons to want more range even if one doesn’t strictly need it. Not having to pay Canadian prices, haggle with people who have you over a barrel in a foreign language, transfer fuel from boat to boat, or schlep it in Jerry cans are all good ones. Even for local cruising...

I feel the same way about the Beneteaus. You will like the build quality of the Maritimo.

We walked through a Maritimo 48 at Boats Afloat and both liked the layout enough that I thought hard about it.